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Nov 25, 2023Liked by Gen Dread

The world needs care and tending - I like that succinct idea in the article.

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I like this post. Good reminder that we can feel despair and hope at once, inside us. We contain multitudes

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I leaflet for JSO and have seen the violence from police & public and heard much verbal abuse too.

I wish everyone would just understand that if the politicians did listen to the UN, scientists & academics & act like we are in a real climate & biodiversity emergency, JSO wouldn’t be disrupting anyone at all!!

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It's all about GROWTH. Wanting growth (nationally or worldwide) causes demand for new oil & gas. But what happens when we DO get growth? A lion's share of it gets hoovered up by the RICH and POWERFUL. We mustn't let them have it when they have too much already

We must LEARN and TEACH that TRUE HAPPINESS comes from FRUGALITY, HUMILITY and EMPATHY

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I loved this article. It articulated ways I have been feeling lately.

Thank you!

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I believe that false optimism is one of the biggest threats to the climate movement - we cannot be both "optimist" and "science-based". Optimism is a skewed view of reality, whereas a science-based perspective requires a dedication to objectivity.

I am personally struggling with a climate movement that is "optimist" - Optimism means that, if I roll my "climate dice", I expect that the dice will show a number 5 or higher. Any real scientist knows that the most likely value of the dice is 3.5, and that any 'higher' expectation is unscientific. Yet, the climate movement claims to be scientific, but many are "unscientifically optimistic" - a paradox and a breaking point. Because, once we allow ourselves to be "unscientific climate activists", how can we expect others to believe the objectivity of the "science of climate" that we promote?

Yet, being unbiased and realistic is tough and leads into other paradoxes: we have to acknowledge the shit that we are in. The first tipping point of the climate, the melting of the Arctic, is in full shift already. It will inevitably trigger the second tipping point, the melting of permafrost along with the release of massive amounts of methane that makes our burping cows look like a funny joke. The Earth System is readjusting, and we cannot do anything about that. Those who will live through the 2050s will learn a lot about 'transformation' - like it or not. Many people will die, and humans will vote in brutal governments to defend their privileges. Accepting this new reality is tough and requires deep spiritual work - on acceptance, trauma, and hope. Most "science-based" researchers and educators have a problem with this spiritual stuff because spirituality is non-scientific - even if we allow ourselves some scientifically unfounded optimism because we need it for our survival.

But once we have become "optimist" scientists, we are no longer scientists but we are believers of selective facts, we choose the facts that we believe in. By then, we are no different than climate deniers - they also just chose different facts that help them keep their mental health. Once we don't permit us to see the reality as it is, we become just one more splinter group with our own reality, our own conspiracy, our own echo bubble. We become irrelevant in a cacophony of conspiracies.

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Ok, Ur in denial… Ur choice… Good luck with that.

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Man-made climate change is a globalist lie.

Why do you think "climate change" even exists, never mind that it has to be "solved"? The UN, the WEF etc are plainly lying to us. It's just incessant propaganda.

Can I prove they are lying? Of course.

Their hockey stick graph shows that the temperature of the world never did anything strange until the Industrial Revolution. Just a steady decline until then. So it follows that any increase since then must indeed be down to us.

But this is the ACTUAL graph showing the changes in the world's temperature since 900 AD:

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8364a449-efa6-48c2-b63d-1f84ee53d690_360x179.png

Notice the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ace Age.

If their most important "proof" is a blatant lie, then why believe them on "climate change" at all? Indeed, why believe them on anything?

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Just Stop Oil is supported by Climate Emergency Fund, which was founded by Aileen Getty -- the billionaire heiress to Getty Oil.

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I agree with the premise of this article but I disagree with the means.

Throwing paint onto a painting is a turn off and has nothing to do with why oil continues to profit off of our complacency. We need to vote as consumers, as activists engaged in education and political change. Yes- it’s the long view. Look up organizations like For Freedoms, for example: buy billboards along main roadways to activate action. We ALL need to participate and I believe we are out there wanting to engage. BUT I’m not willing to let oil company’s and politicians off the hook through vandalism that doesn’t connect to THEIR actions. Just sayin’.

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I totally disagree with the premise of the article. What in the world is wrong with feeling good? I got tired of feeling depressed. It made me apathetic. And people don't want to be around you. So I don't agree with labeling positivity as toxic. Now some may be more effective in the climate movement being angry and glum, but that is just not working for others. Finding joy can be a good motivator for many and it gives them a reason to get out of bed and do something. That works for me. So acknowledge that some prefer a different mood to do their climate work in than others and stop labeling one side or the other as bad.

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